There's Nothing Jewish About the Jewish State

When Iranian President Ahmadinejad recently went on record as proclaiming the Israeli State to be the 'flag of Satan', many dismissed his comments as mere theatrical bullfighting reminiscent of similar prose made by Venezuala's Hugo Chavez (on describing Bush as the Devil).

Perhaps the truth is a little more literal.

Firstly, and as Neturei Karta (Jews against Zionism) consistently point out, there is nothing Judaic about Israel at all. It is not a Jewish Theocracy, and is actually entirely secular. It does not posess at it's core a plethora of faith-based doctrines of which define Judaism. The 'Law of Return' does not require religion to play a factor in determining who is able to immigrate (instead, Jewishness is defined by bloodline).

What does exist at it's core interestingly, is the Freemasons. The underbelly of the Israeli State is in fact, very much like the underbelly of the United States: a super Masonic framework, Supreme Council, Supreme Masonic court etc etc.

Secondly (and perhaps most interestingly) the Israeli flag, a blue Hexagram known as the Star of David, is not a Jewish symbol, and it never has been.

It is one of the Seals of Solomon, used from a time when Solomon was very much out of favour with God, instead worshipping 'pagan deities' before eventually being written out of the Old Testament altogether. The five pointed pentagram is another one of these mystical Seals and is generally considered to represent the conjunctions of Venus as it moves around the Zodiac.

Solomon's wisdom appears to have been the basis of many inscriptions and seals of this nature, along with a heap of related esoteric and generally considered 'Pagan' knowledge being passed down to Solomon's son, only after being hidden underground in the actual temple of Solomon itself. All this esotoric pot pourri seems to have remained fairly elusive until about the 17th Century when it suddenly makes a re-emergence at the hands of bizarre pre-Enlightenment luminaries (Pagans) and eventually winds up seemingly as the central symbology of the Masons. Freemason's Hall in London is the Grand Lodge of the United Kingdom, and is a rather impressive huge mock-up of Solomon's Temple (either First, Second, or possibly even Third). Decorated quite uniformly around the outside there are Hexagrams and Pentagrams everywhere.

Once you accept all this, you don't have to be religious to understand that all this makes Israel's existence and the bizarre intensity of top-down Zionism to be quite peculiar. But if you are religious, specifically belonging to an Abrahamic school of thought, then perhaps you might want to think again before regarding Israel as a Jewish state.

There is an eerie passage in the Book of Revelations that perhaps is worth lingering upon:-

I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and
I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but
are the synagogue of Satan.

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Momotaro.

 

Of course they missed the point momotaro, can you imagine what this means to Israelis and "zionist 'Jews' "??? A catastrophic identity crisis would ensue! Israel is itself an identity crisis, and where ever there's an identity crisis, there's hatred and war. The whole idea of Zionism and Israel IS religious isn't it? Though they try to base it on bloodline, what bloodline? They're semites like Arabs, perhaps "god's chosen people" is a bloodline ;) Not to mention converted Jews.

I ordinarily wouldn't flame in the vituperative, but wow, you're dumb.

Spreading this kind of idiocy, without adequate citation, only serves to ill-inform the already ill-informed.

The earliest known Freemasonry text dates to the 1300s, the Halliwell Manuscript or "Regius Poem." While referencing Euclid and geometry, there's no Seal of Solomon. On the other hand, the Leningrad Codex, dated to the 1000s, depicts the earliest depiction of a Star of David in any context, and yes, it's a Jewish masoretic text.

Second proof-positive of your idiocy is the replica of Solomon's Temple, as you put it, "First, Second, possibly even Third."
1. How dumb are you? The First Temple is the only referred to as Solomon's Temple, as Biblical (and no contemporary extra-biblical sources) relate it was of his construction.
2. The Second Temple was *not* referred to as Solomon's Temple, because it was not. It was built after the Babylonian exile (and without Freemason blueprints) and later renovated by Herod.
3. A Third Temple was never built.

You're out there pitching folk tales and citing a fringe element of Jewish society, pimping it as fact, when even the better-supported premise is sketchy at best.

I'm not even going to touch the Masonry as foundation of Israeli society. That kind of lunacy speaks for itself, and any individual informed of either would never broadcast that kind of ignorance.

Good work, idiot. Very topical, very timely, very craptacular.

It is not the erroneous counter-argument or linguistical nit-picking that is your downfall - merely the vitriolic tone.

Release yourself from such emotional investment and read the article again.

There is one huge glaring flaw in your attempt to demonstrate a superior knowledge base and that is the Star of David.  You write:"...the Leningrad Codex, dated to the 1000s, depicts the earliest depiction of a Star of David in any context, and yes, it's a Jewish masoretic text."Do you stand by that or did you mean to word this differently? 

It is so great to have you here, especially when it comes to that great Martian post!

this is a complete an utter load of crap, Paganism came before Christianity and had nothing to do with Satan and the Devil. The Christians persecuted and murdered followers of the old path claiming it would get in the way of their religion if they did not comply with their conversion and broke the commandment " thou shalt not kill". Thus Christians are eitherHypocryts or they are extremely brainwashed by the church or Bible Bashers.

The Jewish beliefe was before Christianity and long after the beging of Paganism.

Iranian President Ahmadinejad is obviously talking from his ass and needs to get his facts right.

The point is that according to the Old Testament (and therefore according to those whose religion of choice stems from the Old Testament) Solomon ultimately betrayed God and worshipped 'other Gods'. It doesn't really matter whether you label it paganism, or satanism, or even astronomy (!)..... the point is that he's not in God's good books at all......and that which is not in God's good books is surely questionable? (naturally only if you are a follower of such religions). The fact that both the Freemasons, the Zionists etc incorporate symbology from Solomon during his "out-of-favour-with-God-era" therefore make those respective entities questionable also..... especially Israel, which tries to sell itself as being Jewish yet in essence is actually something completely different (much to the ignorance of Christians and Jews the world over). I really don't see how that can be called 'crap' at all.

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