Submitted by Library App (not verified) on Wed, 05/05/2010 - 05:33.
I reported said situation to FBI and they never gave me an agent. they chase after celebrities and rock stars while i get assaulted with toxic chemicals.
Submitted by Sycllat (not verified) on Sun, 02/28/2010 - 11:18.
Very Useful information , this is both good reading for, have quite a few good key points, and I learn some new stuff from it too, thanks for sharing your information.
Submitted by minus the bars (not verified) on Mon, 12/28/2009 - 03:42.
i refuse to sit here and speculate on what if anything that is. human nature wants me to believe that it's an non-human being, and it just goes to show how the government have covered up extra-terrestrial life for the longest.
you do not want to know what intelligence tells me.
Submitted by Anonymeme (not verified) on Fri, 10/09/2009 - 07:57.
In the landscape pic with the red arrow above......on the right hand side you can clearly make out some sort of erosion or clearing of the land. The shape is clearly geometric. Kinda like a U shape and at 90degree angles? if this is a natural formation then the only explanation could be water flowing to erode the shape, leaving behind a dried up bed. Surely wind could not cut it so exact. This seems to be deliberately made for some reason.
Just above the red arrow you can also make out a whole bunch of straight lines in the distance. Now given that it may be quite far away the illusion could be created to look like it was straight, but the presence of so many and the fact that they lead to what appears to be an area where some sort of activity has taken place eliminate that option. The area where i can see activity seems so due to the white markings isolated to one area, making me think that something was or is there. The fact that where this takes place is on flat terrain makes it even more believable that should "aliens" want to settle or operate on Mars they would do so on flat terrain.
Submitted by The Ski (not verified) on Fri, 10/09/2009 - 07:56.
In the landscape pic with the red arrow above......on the right hand side you can clearly make out some sort of erosion or clearing of the land. The shape is clearly geometric. Kinda like a U shape and at 90degree angles? if this is a natural formation then the only explanation could be water flowing to erode the shape, leaving behind a dried up bed. Surely wind could not cut it so exact. This seems to be deliberately made for some reason.
Just above the red arrow you can also make out a whole bunch of straight lines in the distance. Now given that it may be quite far away the illusion could be created to look like it was straight, but the presence of so many and the fact that they lead to what appears to be an area where some sort of activity has taken place eliminate that option. The area where i can see activity seems so due to the white markings isolated to one area, making me think that something was or is there. The fact that where this takes place is on flat terrain makes it even more believable that should "aliens" want to settle or operate on Mars they would do so on flat terrain.
Submitted by Pam Toll (not verified) on Mon, 08/17/2009 - 17:57.
this woman in her late 40s lives in park forest il usa.. I was a mind control victim by being implanted with a microchip in my molar during a filling without my consent. its a satiellited audio network .. works on similar pretext as cell phone.. tower to tower and or satiellited.
Its run by incompetent mostly illegal alien black females and white women who are in organized crime. They blamed joe lesi, but they did not even know him. They were trained and recruited as a result of me mostly reporting corruption and reporting them as potential suspects in a financial fraud ring. they stalk me al l over. I figure its to keep tabs on me for the criminal network that lured and then murdered people who may have been investigating and or in a terror cell associated with 9-11-01.. or more. They were particularly interested in illegal forgeiners willing to do anything in a robotic like way and not question authority.I feverishly tried to report this terror cell growin in the chicago area.. and was blown off because some cook county officals were pissed at me for making internal affairs complaints against TWO SHERIFFS and about 9people in the rolling meadows circuit court who tampered with my minor traffic files and some false arrests. This situation has been going on since 2002.. and then there after. To railroad a WHISTLE BLOWER Me..
and i with stood it. someone organized the MOB to look after me against my wishes and the forgeiners.. just wack anyone who gets in their way. all i know is . I recently tried to report a poser phony teller at the US BANKS IN PARK FOREST IL . WHO REALLY DOES NOT WORK THERE .. and I knew it. and was ARRESTED FOR DISORDERLY CONDUCT TWO MONTHS LATER by malicious cops still willing to coverup a phony "undercover op" of phony tellers and cashiers.. that was not supported by any legimate justice system law enforcement agency. I KNOW FIRST hand at the time went to aLL THE RIGHT AND PROPER DEPTS NO OPEN CASES EXISTED. my FREEDOM OF INFO ACT ALSO VERIFIED THIS. I reported said situation to FBI and they never gave me an agent. they chase after celebrities and rock stars while i get assaulted with toxic chemicals.
My downstairs neighbors in a real psychotronic network harrassing me and gangstalking me for years.. are now pals of the FBI AND CIA.. and let them use HER APT TO SPY ON ME. BUT NO ONE EVER SPIES ON THEM when they leave!
Strange world. I would recommend heads up.. another 9-11 isnt far off in the future.. and its all plotted from chicago suburbs.. so DONT BLAME OSAMA BIN LADEN FOR THIS ONE!
Submitted by Peaches (not verified) on Tue, 02/10/2009 - 17:57.
COME BACK TO AMERICA AND TELL US WHAT YOU FOUND and what YOU CONSTRUCTED.. the rumors of your bondage is way out of control.
Some people dont realize to get information you have to travel away from a computer to do it..
Satiellite tracking you too? Got yours in my colon
Submitted by PAM TOll (not verified) on Tue, 02/10/2009 - 17:55.
Well are you tired of the desert, living a ragged life? Come back to life and tell people of your construction.. no one here understands why you left..
Use your own name and state your case..
Werent you RAY?
Submitted by SR (not verified) on Fri, 05/16/2008 - 06:34.
I think its more like a human for caught up in some instant heat generated - by may be an atomic war or like - and perished dry cooked trying to reach out for someone ... seems like a kid lying on the floor a few feet away.
In Genesis, Abraham, left "UR" of the Chaldees. In Chaldean "UR" means "RED" and was associated with the Planet "Mars"..the primary god of Ur! Have you ever felt that tingling down your spine? In other words, "Chris" is the King of Mars...seeking "Ishtar, Queen of Venus"! (watch out buddy, she's notorious for burning loved ones!)
someday, i'm going to freak everyone out with my theory of the "globally, universal primordial meme-state"..then everyone will know I'm nuts! On the other hand, it's sort of like a "memetic aboriginee". Everything, has always been and will always be. The human mental universe NEVER changes. The "anti-change"! "change" is nothing but a figment of the "imagination" manipulated by the "media". (That means religion is a "media" not a "philosophy". (sorry, i'm a little bored today. working on my wireless crap!)
Submitted by muhadeeb (not verified) on Sun, 01/27/2008 - 13:39.
If no one has seen it yet, this appears to be the shadow(Backside) of a rock that may have been in the position to view in its shadow side. Thus the fractured unsunlit side is facing toward the camera sensor.
Submitted by Anonymeme (not verified) on Sat, 01/26/2008 - 07:32.
WO!! wait a minute.... im probably reading to much into it.... but the first picture...... click the enlarge link.... notice that... about a finger (going right) away from the "woman" there is another figure... its looks as though its hidding behind that rock... it looks like it has shoulders...and maybe even an ear.... just look at it.. imn sure its my imagination... but hey.... this is history ...no matter the outcome
Submitted by ockfener (not verified) on Fri, 01/25/2008 - 07:04.
These rovers were designed to live a few months. Steven Squyres and company have created one of the most successful space projects ever (retarded interpretations of photos notwithstanding).
Too bad there hasn't been a Jesus or Mary photo. We'd get to Mars real quick.
Life on Mars? Amazing photos from Nasa probe reveal mystery figure on Red Planet By BETH HALE - More by this author » Last updated at 00:18am on 24th January 2008 Comments (49) Perched on a rock, she could be waiting for a bus. But if so, she could be in for an awfully long wait. This photo of what looks remarkably like a female figure with her arm outstretched, was taken on Mars. Scroll down for more... Call me rocky: The intriguing image captured by Nasa on Mars Perhaps unsurprisingly, it has set the Internet abuzz with claims that there really is life on the red planet. Others may well feel that it is simply an optical illusion caused by a landscape. Scroll down for more... Alien life: What seems to be a human-like Martian is pictured on Mars The image was among many sent back to Earth by Spirit, Nasa's Mars explorer vehicle which landed there four years ago. Initial inspections revealed nothing unusual, but closer examination by amateur astronomers has thrown up this intriguing picture. Scroll down for more... Painstaking: Space enthusiasts spent four years analysing this image, which on much closer inspection shows the 'alien' As one enthusiast put it on a website: "These pictures are amazing. I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw what appears to be a naked alien running around on Mars." Another, dismissing cynicism about the somewhat stony look of the "alien", wrote: "If you show me another rock in another photo from Mars, or Earth, that naturally looks like that, I will reconsider." Scroll down for more... Say cheese: The mystery image was captured by Nasa's explorer vehicle, Spirit A third contributor, who might have come closer to the majority view, said: "Ah, the human eye can be tricked so easily."
Submitted by The Ski (not verified) on Fri, 10/09/2009 - 07:54.
In the landscape pic with the red arrow above......on the right hand side you can clearly make out some sort of erosion or clearing of the land. The shape is clearly geometric. Kinda like a U shape and at 90degree angles? if this is a natural formation then the only explanation could be water flowing to erode the shape, leaving behind a dried up bed. Surely wind could not cut it so exact. This seems to be deliberately made for some reason.
Just above the red arrow you can also make out a whole bunch of straight lines in the distance. Now given that it may be quite far away the illusion could be created to look like it was straight, but the presence of so many and the fact that they lead to what appears to be an area where some sort of activity has taken place eliminate that option. The area where i can see activity seems so due to the white markings isolated to one area, making me think that something was or is there. The fact that where this takes place is on flat terrain makes it even more believable that should "aliens" want to settle or operate on Mars they would do so on flat terrain.
Submitted by The Ski (not verified) on Fri, 10/09/2009 - 07:46.
In the landscape pic with the red arrow above......on the right hand side you can clearly make out some sort of erosion or clearing of the land. The shape is clearly geometric. Kinda like a U shape and at 90degree angles? if this is a natural formation then the only explanation could be water flowing to erode the shape, leaving behind a dried up bed. Surely wind could not cut it so exact. This seems to be deliberately made for some reason.
Just above the red arrow you can also make out a whole bunch of straight lines in the distance. Now given that it may be quite far away the illusion could be created to look like it was straight, but the presence of so many and the fact that they lead to what appears to be an area where some sort of activity has taken place eliminate that option. The area where i can see activity seems so due to the white markings isolated to one area, making me think that something was or is there. The fact that where this takes place is on flat terrain makes it even more believable that should "aliens" want to settle or operate on Mars they would do so on flat terrain.
Submitted by The Ski (not verified) on Fri, 10/09/2009 - 07:44.
In the landscape pic with the red arrow above......on the right hand side you can clearly make out some sort of erosion or clearing of the land. The shape is clearly geometric. Kinda like a U shape and at 90degree angles? if this is a natural formation then the only explanation could be water flowing to erode the shape, leaving behind a dried up bed. Surely wind could not cut it so exact. This seems to be deliberately made for some reason.
Just above the red arrow you can also make out a whole bunch of straight lines in the distance. Now given that it may be quite far away the illusion could be created to look like it was straight, but the presence of so many and the fact that they lead to what appears to be an area where some sort of activity has taken place eliminate that option. The area where i can see activity seems so due to the white markings isolated to one area, making me think that something was or is there. The fact that where this takes place is on flat terrain makes it even more believable that should "aliens" want to settle or operate on Mars they would do so on flat terrain.
Submitted by john cass (not verified) on Wed, 01/23/2008 - 20:29.
Turn your head to the right, it looks more like an outcropping with a shadow, I think the top of the edge is obscured by the terrain at the back of the outcropping. Also, as you turn your head, the other shadow to the right also looks like a human figure. It is just a trick of the light., you cannot see the edge of the outcropping.
Submitted by MichaelJay (not verified) on Wed, 01/23/2008 - 20:06.
If indead its a rock like the skeptics are saying. Then why are there none like it in the shot. Look at the right arm of the figure and try to replicate the formation somewhere in the picure................you cant.
Submitted by Anonymeme (not verified) on Thu, 01/24/2008 - 20:08.
I can. In the second picture in this article, about three rocks to the right of the circled figure you can see a hand half-buried in the sand, pointing at something in the distance. Towards the right of the picture you can see a Worm Man crawling along. At the far right there is a shadow of a pair of rabbit ears, most likely cast by Binky from Matt Groening's "Life In Hell" comic strip. Apparently he's either just out of frame or is hiding behind a rock.
So this is absolute proof of a NASA conspiracy to hide the truth about the existence of rock-women, worm-men and cartoon bunnies on Mars. Unless of course the whole space program is a conspiracy, and these pictures were mocked up on a movie stage in Area 51.
If there is actually a probe on Mars, however, I do think that that does look like "someone" who is in fact super-protected from the sun. What do you all think?
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i refuse to sit here and speculate on what if anything that is. human nature wants me to believe that it's an non-human being, and it just goes to show how the government have covered up extra-terrestrial life for the longest.
you do not want to know what intelligence tells me.
Trying to post a comment about anomolies I have seen on these pics but my comment won't post?? Is someone monitoring these lages??
In the landscape pic with the red arrow above......on the right hand side you can clearly make out some sort of erosion or clearing of the land. The shape is clearly geometric. Kinda like a U shape and at 90degree angles? if this is a natural formation then the only explanation could be water flowing to erode the shape, leaving behind a dried up bed. Surely wind could not cut it so exact. This seems to be deliberately made for some reason.
Just above the red arrow you can also make out a whole bunch of straight lines in the distance. Now given that it may be quite far away the illusion could be created to look like it was straight, but the presence of so many and the fact that they lead to what appears to be an area where some sort of activity has taken place eliminate that option. The area where i can see activity seems so due to the white markings isolated to one area, making me think that something was or is there. The fact that where this takes place is on flat terrain makes it even more believable that should "aliens" want to settle or operate on Mars they would do so on flat terrain.
In the landscape pic with the red arrow above......on the right hand side you can clearly make out some sort of erosion or clearing of the land. The shape is clearly geometric. Kinda like a U shape and at 90degree angles? if this is a natural formation then the only explanation could be water flowing to erode the shape, leaving behind a dried up bed. Surely wind could not cut it so exact. This seems to be deliberately made for some reason.
Just above the red arrow you can also make out a whole bunch of straight lines in the distance. Now given that it may be quite far away the illusion could be created to look like it was straight, but the presence of so many and the fact that they lead to what appears to be an area where some sort of activity has taken place eliminate that option. The area where i can see activity seems so due to the white markings isolated to one area, making me think that something was or is there. The fact that where this takes place is on flat terrain makes it even more believable that should "aliens" want to settle or operate on Mars they would do so on flat terrain.
this woman in her late 40s lives in park forest il usa.. I was a mind control victim by being implanted with a microchip in my molar during a filling without my consent. its a satiellited audio network .. works on similar pretext as cell phone.. tower to tower and or satiellited.
Its run by incompetent mostly illegal alien black females and white women who are in organized crime. They blamed joe lesi, but they did not even know him. They were trained and recruited as a result of me mostly reporting corruption and reporting them as potential suspects in a financial fraud ring. they stalk me al l over. I figure its to keep tabs on me for the criminal network that lured and then murdered people who may have been investigating and or in a terror cell associated with 9-11-01.. or more. They were particularly interested in illegal forgeiners willing to do anything in a robotic like way and not question authority.I feverishly tried to report this terror cell growin in the chicago area.. and was blown off because some cook county officals were pissed at me for making internal affairs complaints against TWO SHERIFFS and about 9people in the rolling meadows circuit court who tampered with my minor traffic files and some false arrests. This situation has been going on since 2002.. and then there after. To railroad a WHISTLE BLOWER Me..
and i with stood it. someone organized the MOB to look after me against my wishes and the forgeiners.. just wack anyone who gets in their way. all i know is . I recently tried to report a poser phony teller at the US BANKS IN PARK FOREST IL . WHO REALLY DOES NOT WORK THERE .. and I knew it. and was ARRESTED FOR DISORDERLY CONDUCT TWO MONTHS LATER by malicious cops still willing to coverup a phony "undercover op" of phony tellers and cashiers.. that was not supported by any legimate justice system law enforcement agency. I KNOW FIRST hand at the time went to aLL THE RIGHT AND PROPER DEPTS NO OPEN CASES EXISTED. my FREEDOM OF INFO ACT ALSO VERIFIED THIS. I reported said situation to FBI and they never gave me an agent. they chase after celebrities and rock stars while i get assaulted with toxic chemicals.
My downstairs neighbors in a real psychotronic network harrassing me and gangstalking me for years.. are now pals of the FBI AND CIA.. and let them use HER APT TO SPY ON ME. BUT NO ONE EVER SPIES ON THEM when they leave!
Strange world. I would recommend heads up.. another 9-11 isnt far off in the future.. and its all plotted from chicago suburbs.. so DONT BLAME OSAMA BIN LADEN FOR THIS ONE!
That can be in the desert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!lol.
That can be in the desert
COME BACK TO AMERICA AND TELL US WHAT YOU FOUND and what YOU CONSTRUCTED.. the rumors of your bondage is way out of control.
Some people dont realize to get information you have to travel away from a computer to do it..
Satiellite tracking you too? Got yours in my colon
Pam PARK FOREST IL USA
Well are you tired of the desert, living a ragged life? Come back to life and tell people of your construction.. no one here understands why you left..
Use your own name and state your case..
Werent you RAY?
I think its more like a human for caught up in some instant heat generated - by may be an atomic war or like - and perished dry cooked trying to reach out for someone ... seems like a kid lying on the floor a few feet away.
I wonder if this humanoid could be possibly Dr Neil Abraham? - that dude who blasted himself out of the stratosphere.
My last name is ABRAHAM -- I wonder if we're related! :)
In Genesis, Abraham, left "UR" of the Chaldees. In Chaldean "UR" means "RED" and was associated with the Planet "Mars"..the primary god of Ur! Have you ever felt that tingling down your spine? In other words, "Chris" is the King of Mars...seeking "Ishtar, Queen of Venus"! (watch out buddy, she's notorious for burning loved ones!)
___
/zorro
/____
I am very (un)happy to be so central to a global conspiracy! Ha!
someday, i'm going to freak everyone out with my theory of the "globally, universal primordial meme-state"..then everyone will know I'm nuts! On the other hand, it's sort of like a "memetic aboriginee". Everything, has always been and will always be. The human mental universe NEVER changes. The "anti-change"! "change" is nothing but a figment of the "imagination" manipulated by the "media". (That means religion is a "media" not a "philosophy". (sorry, i'm a little bored today. working on my wireless crap!)
___
/zorro
/____
If no one has seen it yet, this appears to be the shadow(Backside) of a rock that may have been in the position to view in its shadow side. Thus the fractured unsunlit side is facing toward the camera sensor.
WO!! wait a minute.... im probably reading to much into it.... but the first picture...... click the enlarge link.... notice that... about a finger (going right) away from the "woman" there is another figure... its looks as though its hidding behind that rock... it looks like it has shoulders...and maybe even an ear.... just look at it.. imn sure its my imagination... but hey.... this is history ...no matter the outcome
Holy moly! what ever it is it sure is something worth looking at!
These rovers were designed to live a few months. Steven Squyres and company have created one of the most successful space projects ever (retarded interpretations of photos notwithstanding).
Too bad there hasn't been a Jesus or Mary photo. We'd get to Mars real quick.
sorry - couldn't resist photoshopping this....
The photo didn't come through :(
Life on Mars? Amazing photos from Nasa probe reveal mystery figure on Red Planet By BETH HALE - More by this author » Last updated at 00:18am on 24th January 2008
Comments (49) Perched on a rock, she could be waiting for a bus. But if so, she could be in for an awfully long wait. This photo of what looks remarkably like a female figure with her arm outstretched, was taken on Mars. Scroll down for more...
Call me rocky: The intriguing image captured by Nasa on Mars
Perhaps unsurprisingly, it has set the Internet abuzz with claims that there really is life on the red planet. Others may well feel that it is simply an optical illusion caused by a landscape. Scroll down for more...
Alien life: What seems to be a human-like Martian is pictured on Mars
The image was among many sent back to Earth by Spirit, Nasa's Mars explorer vehicle which landed there four years ago. Initial inspections revealed nothing unusual, but closer examination by amateur astronomers has thrown up this intriguing picture. Scroll down for more...
Painstaking: Space enthusiasts spent four years analysing this image, which on much closer inspection shows the 'alien'
As one enthusiast put it on a website: "These pictures are amazing. I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw what appears to be a naked alien running around on Mars." Another, dismissing cynicism about the somewhat stony look of the "alien", wrote: "If you show me another rock in another photo from Mars, or Earth, that naturally looks like that, I will reconsider." Scroll down for more...
Say cheese: The mystery image was captured by Nasa's explorer vehicle, Spirit A third contributor, who might have come closer to the majority view, said: "Ah, the human eye can be tricked so easily."
In the landscape pic with the red arrow above......on the right hand side you can clearly make out some sort of erosion or clearing of the land. The shape is clearly geometric. Kinda like a U shape and at 90degree angles? if this is a natural formation then the only explanation could be water flowing to erode the shape, leaving behind a dried up bed. Surely wind could not cut it so exact. This seems to be deliberately made for some reason.
Just above the red arrow you can also make out a whole bunch of straight lines in the distance. Now given that it may be quite far away the illusion could be created to look like it was straight, but the presence of so many and the fact that they lead to what appears to be an area where some sort of activity has taken place eliminate that option. The area where i can see activity seems so due to the white markings isolated to one area, making me think that something was or is there. The fact that where this takes place is on flat terrain makes it even more believable that should "aliens" want to settle or operate on Mars they would do so on flat terrain.
In the landscape pic with the red arrow above......on the right hand side you can clearly make out some sort of erosion or clearing of the land. The shape is clearly geometric. Kinda like a U shape and at 90degree angles? if this is a natural formation then the only explanation could be water flowing to erode the shape, leaving behind a dried up bed. Surely wind could not cut it so exact. This seems to be deliberately made for some reason.
Just above the red arrow you can also make out a whole bunch of straight lines in the distance. Now given that it may be quite far away the illusion could be created to look like it was straight, but the presence of so many and the fact that they lead to what appears to be an area where some sort of activity has taken place eliminate that option. The area where i can see activity seems so due to the white markings isolated to one area, making me think that something was or is there. The fact that where this takes place is on flat terrain makes it even more believable that should "aliens" want to settle or operate on Mars they would do so on flat terrain.
In the landscape pic with the red arrow above......on the right hand side you can clearly make out some sort of erosion or clearing of the land. The shape is clearly geometric. Kinda like a U shape and at 90degree angles? if this is a natural formation then the only explanation could be water flowing to erode the shape, leaving behind a dried up bed. Surely wind could not cut it so exact. This seems to be deliberately made for some reason.
Just above the red arrow you can also make out a whole bunch of straight lines in the distance. Now given that it may be quite far away the illusion could be created to look like it was straight, but the presence of so many and the fact that they lead to what appears to be an area where some sort of activity has taken place eliminate that option. The area where i can see activity seems so due to the white markings isolated to one area, making me think that something was or is there. The fact that where this takes place is on flat terrain makes it even more believable that should "aliens" want to settle or operate on Mars they would do so on flat terrain.
Turn your head to the right, it looks more like an outcropping with a shadow, I think the top of the edge is obscured by the terrain at the back of the outcropping. Also, as you turn your head, the other shadow to the right also looks like a human figure. It is just a trick of the light., you cannot see the edge of the outcropping.
If indead its a rock like the skeptics are saying. Then why are there none like it in the shot. Look at the right arm of the figure and try to replicate the formation somewhere in the picure................you cant.
I can. In the second picture in this article, about three rocks to the right of the circled figure you can see a hand half-buried in the sand, pointing at something in the distance. Towards the right of the picture you can see a Worm Man crawling along. At the far right there is a shadow of a pair of rabbit ears, most likely cast by Binky from Matt Groening's "Life In Hell" comic strip. Apparently he's either just out of frame or is hiding behind a rock.
So this is absolute proof of a NASA conspiracy to hide the truth about the existence of rock-women, worm-men and cartoon bunnies on Mars. Unless of course the whole space program is a conspiracy, and these pictures were mocked up on a movie stage in Area 51.
Dude, Worms, bunnies, and women! Oh my!
If there is actually a probe on Mars, however, I do think that that does look like "someone" who is in fact super-protected from the sun. What do you all think?
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