I'd like to remind folks that libelous slander, in the United States, only exists in cases in which an issuer's claims are not true. In the U.K. that is not true and we are not in the U.K. That said, here is the latest, small chapter in the psy-op known as the Mike Ruppert Entourage.
Lori Price of CLG (Citizens for a Legitimate Government) runs a 9/11 listserv at Riseup.net. It was on, at one time, one of Mike Ruppert's mailing lists. By and large, folks tuned in to find out the latest on the 9/11 investigation and, at the time, most of the good ones were expected to come from Mike. I felt the same way.
Readers at Memes.org are, for the most part, keenly aware of the Mitre-Ptech connections to 9/11 and the fight some of this research's proponents have gone through to bring it to light but in case you are new to this story, click here. Once you are somewhat familiar with the material, the following will make vastly more sense.
I recall the day when I first submitted said memes to a list Mike was on and it is the one at Yahoo known as CIA-Drugs. I had already had a bad bout with Mike (not the moderator) when he claimed that the usage of methamphetamines by intelligence agencies to practice behavior modification was off topic for a list whose purpose was to unearth the connection between the uses and sales of drugs and the activities of intelligence agencies.
Yeah, I know it's crazy.
As to the Mitre and Ptech connections to 9/11 he said they were so ridiculous that he didn't even need to look at them. That's right: they were so ludicrous, that they didn't even warrant the kind of examination that determines ludicrousness in the first place. That's called a rabbit hole, friends.
Some moons later, at the list moderated by Lori Price, I submitted the evidence again. Mike was on the list but I was not looking for his approval anymore. I already knew what I needed to know about Mike Ruppert. No, I was attempting to put this information between serious reserachers, some of whom were obviously drawn to any list with him on it. As well, I thought, maybe he would reconsider and tackle the information or maybe he would be forced to by the tide of other researchers and public demand.
That was not to happen. I was told to stop making libelous statements about Mike and though, believe you me, they were on my mind, at this time I had never made any accusations against Mike Ruppert. This is a typical rabbit hole invitation. It put me immediately in the position of having to explain myself instead of Mike having to explain why he was attempting to squash my researcher, which is the situation I was hoping to facilitate. Of course, as I have said, I had not at this point issued any accusations against Mike but obviously he knew they were coming and so did Lori.
After Lori told the list that I was attempting to hack the list (during the period that I, miraculously, didn't have access to the list and was, therefore, unable to respond to the accusations, let alone know that they existed) I contacted Riseup admin, the host of my email address and the mailing list Lori and Mike headed. Lori had told the list that the matter was being investigated with the Riseup Collective but the collective told me that Lori had never even contacted them.
Many more moons passed and Mike was discredited. His publication, From the Wilderness, was eventually forced to cover the story and they did their own spin that left out any Israeli involvement (Christopher Bollyn's research on the same left out the Saudi connections). Saudi and Israeli space outfits work very closely together and this is one thing systematically obscured by both "journalists." Can you say controlled opposition?
Recently , Bollyn claimed to have incredible new leads but he was not going to send out the information because he didn't have the funding. This is not Life Magazine; it's the internet! I blogged relentlessly and widely, for years, from the position of homelessness so don't gimme no crap! If Bollyn is legitimate, he will not hold the truth hostage for more donations. Disgusting!
Well, here it is now in 2008 and Price continues to be a large scale presence on the world wide web. She seems to be putting out good information so I though, ya know, maybe she's legit.
I decided to ask her for her take on Ruppert now. After years, and after having had Lori on mailing lists of mine prior to even ever communicating with Mike, I though maybe she fought dirty but maybe she just didn't realize whose side she was on. Maybe she deserved a chance, after all.
I ask you the reader, after all of that, what are the chances that Lori would simply not remember me or the whole shebang she was a part of for months? What are the chances that such conscious manipulation could go merely forgotten in the next few years? "I don't remember," is not the trademark of a reliable journalist but it is the trademark of a politician, i.e. a manipulator.
Of course, now that my research and that of others' IS getting its due and Ruppert is ignored, the only thing that will save face now that my credibility actually rises above Mike's (perhaps not among the public but most accomplished 9/11 researchers around know) is to lay the groundwork for a series of lies. The campaign is begun, if on a very small scale. The stance being adopted by Lori Price is deny, deny, deny!
I couldn't let this go unreported. To this day, I knew that she was either deluded or a spook and a simple, even friendly email often does a nice job of revealing which. If she had been deluded she might apologize. If she was merely convinced that most others are now deluded about Mike, a lot of things could have come as a response. If she was a spook, however, you can expect mixed signals such as being defensive and even going on the attack as you pretend to not know what is being alluded to.
One question I posed to her just this morning is: "Weren't you there when someone introduced the Mitre and Ptech leads and everyone, including Ruppert and yourself, told that person to get lost and even told people that that person was attempting to hack the list."
Her response:
I have never even met Mike Ruppert or was at any
such conference. You obviously have me mixed up with someone else, but I am too busy and
I DON'T CARE.
I owe you NO explanations - you're another lunatic on the Web.
L. P.
So I am to believe that one Lori Price has been replaced, at the same email address (with the same outfit - CLG) by someone that I am mixing up with the old Lori Price - at the same email address. If true, then why is the job of being Lori Price rotated?!?
Of course she knows what I am talking about, as is indicated by my previous exchange with her, even earlier this morning where I wrote:
Now that Ruppert is discredited and even From the Wilderness has been forced to cover the Mitre and Ptech connections, what is your stance on the issue?
Her response:
WHAT issue, nutjob?
Feigning a lack of understanding, she knows enough to go immediately on the offensive. The only person that could pull off not remembering months of such activity is someone who either lies so much that they can't possibly sort it all out or someone who is so dense and has such a bad memory that any news disseminated by said person should not be trusted.
Nutjob indeed. The Zionazi juggernaut is failing, Lori. You are losing.
Her mailing list at Riseup shows the following in the list description:
The Israeli/Palestinian debate is not welcome dialogue for the group. Moreover, comments/theories blaming an ethnic or religious group for the 9-11 terrorist attacks are not permitted.
Neat, eh? We can mention Saudi's because it is not an ethnicity like 'Arab' is but what about a state in which the national identity, the racial identity, and religious identity are all tied up in one? That pretty much excludes any discussion of Israel; in fact she specifically says that we cannot even mention the suffering of the Palestinians. How very, very neat.
I just thought everyone should know.
If you give a man the correct information for seven years, he may believe the incorrect information on the first day of the eighth year when it is necessary, from your point of view, that he should do so. Your first job is to build the credibility and the authenticity of your propaganda, and persuade the enemy to trust you although you are his enemy.
~ A Psychological Warfare Casebook Operations Research Office Johns Hopkins University Baltimore (1958) SOURCE
I have no idea of Citizens for a Legitimate Government is, itself, controlled opposition but I think so. Everything I have ever seen come out of CLG has come from one of her email addresses.
Caveat Lector!
Rather innocuous, actually, but pretty much like what happened at Myspace. All links to Memes.org at my blog at EENG, at least the Ruppert post, were changed to bring one to a dead link. The "memes.org" part was missing from each of those links. Hmmm....
I am in the process of seeing if EENG did that to all of my links at my blog to Memes.org or just in that piece. Strange occurrences abound with my internet activity lately.
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Was the plan to simply drive me off until the Mitre and Ptech story could be portrayed as being broken by FTW to its larger and wider than mine audience?
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